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11/15/2002 Angry Religious Person

Angry Religious Person wrote:

Mike:

Two (2) accurate statements I would like to post here, and I would hope that you would post them on your website as well for others to read.

1. You are an asshole (lazy as well)
2. You are accurate in stating that you don't expect others to send you any money.

Regards....


Mike wrote:

You should try some yoga to control your anger towards strangers. There is no reason for you to get so upset at someone who has not done anything to you. If you don't like my site, don't visit it. it's that simple...

Mike


Angry Religious Person wrote:

You should refrain from attempting to be such an opportunistic fool. Soliciting money from others with the only intent to better oneself is evidence of your self-centered ideology. Your energy would be better spent by directing it toward some productive endeavor that would perhaps give you some sense of pride and potentially earn the respect of others.

I'm sure you will find fault with this advice, but think about it. Living is some dreamworld whereby you would "hope" than enough fools would send you money is pure folly!!!!!!!!!!! And you're right. The likelihood (spelling?) of your making a success at 30 years of age as a rock star is remote at best. Try getting a "real" job....


Mike wrote:

You know, you really should try lightening up. I'm not sure why you take such great offense to something so silly and insignificant. I DO appreciate your and anyone else's "advice", but not your insults. Perhaps your time would be better suited doing something other than emailing me and calling me an "asshole".

I'm curious, when a beggar approaches you on the street and asks for a dollar do you have a desire to kick the sh*# out of him?


Angry Religious Person wrote:

No, actually, on occasion I will give a beggar some money. Not always. But on occasion. At least the beggar on the street has enough b*%#s to do his begging outside in inclimate weather. He doesn't ask for millions of dollars and he doesn't hide behind a computer keyboard in the warmth of his home to do his begging. Do you get the point here? Probably not. You are really pathetic. Try getting off your a#* behind your keyboard and get a job. Be productive. Or at least, go get some ratty clothes and get out in the cold and beg. Maybe someone will have pity for
you!!!!!!!!!Hell, who knows..maybe I will come by and feel sorry for you and give you one of the million dollars you are looking for..................


Mike wrote:

Why do I have to be pathetic, pitiful or homeless to ask for money? I guess I don't get your point. Who says I don't have a job? I don't think it takes b*$%s to stand out in the rain and ask for money. I think it takes balls to ask for it when you don't really need it. I'm intrigued by your position on this and am really trying to make an effort to understand it, and more importantly why it upsets you so much. After all, this is just one big experiment.

By the way, may I post your comments on my site? I don't mind expressing other points of view and would print it verbatim.

Mike


Angry Religious Person wrote:

What happened to your ad on craigslist? As I recall, you stated that you were not working and even stated that it would be hard to find work as a 30 year old musician (or substance thereof)....In any event, I got the impression that you are not working. Are you? As far as posting my messages on your website, what's the point of doing that--just to create controversy or get others to jump on your bandwagon to make you feel better? Just curious as to your reason. As far as my view concerning your soliciting money, I feel that individuals should "earn" their money rather than look for handouts. This country is rife with those that believe the "world" owe's them a living. Hard-working individuals that make something of themselves by expending of themselves are what "real" people are all about. Those that play on the mercy of others are just looking for a free ride. This is of course my opinion, but if there were more honest, hardworking people in the world, working together to get things done, we would all be better off for it. It appears that your "experiment" is to get rich off of other people without any investment on your part. I do think however, that regardless of the outcome of such an experiment, you will be disappointed either immediately (since I doubt much money will come your way), and in the long term you will realize what a failure you really are by not investing of yourself to be a productive individual. You can tell your kids and grandkids that you sat behind a computer keyboard and drifted into poverty by begging for money without anything in return....


Mike wrote:

Bodie, if that is your name, I appreciate your taking the time to write me back and further explain your thinking. I am starting to get a better picture as to what your thought process is all about. I stated in my ad that I was approaching 30 and it is hard to get signed past a certain age. What I meant was that this is a way of becoming a multi-millionaire and it was fading. I did not mean that this was the only source of income I was relying on. I do have a job. I do make a decent living. I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting more. I read your message carefully. Then I read it again. I agree with you. Please understand that I am not trying to deceive you. I do feel that we should EARN our place in the society we choose to live in. I live in a capitalist country. I am motivated by greed. I work for the sake of greed. I have read all of Ayn Rand's books on the subject. I am not simply trying to create controversy. I am trying to find out what it's really all about. To get right down to it, this thing that motivates us so much, this think that controls us, why would we give it away? Under what circumstances? If this stupid idea were to actually work, do you know what I would do? Do you? Do you think I would go to a caribbean island and sit there until > dehydrated? Please. I would never be satisfied until I knew why. Why would someone trade in a small piece of their dream to make mine come true? I can tell you have given this a lot of thought. I ask you to give it some more. What is it that REALLY bothers you about this experiment? Is there a person you think of when you see my picture? What did he do? I don't mean to pry, but I am really interested in learning more

I have to go, but thanks again for your detailed letter. Even if I'm not successful, this will be fun!

Mike


Angry Religious Person wrote:

Your message contains more substance than I would have expected and for that I give you credit. I have likely made some rash statements toward you initially, and for that I apologize. I guess my real issue here is that I have this image of some lazy individual trying to leech his way through life at the expense of others. I now see a different person in you. My concept of life is likely very different than yours and perhaps different from the masses in general. I see people in general losing sight of the real values of life. Greed, materialism, pride, arrogance, and just plain general lack of courtesy seems to permeate our society. Family values have been destroyed by the media. Society seems to teem with hatred. In essence, the moral fiber of humanity seems to have been distorted beyond reason. The simple things in life that used to satisfy people are almost non-existent. The very existence of God has escaped the thinking process of most individuals. If God does exist in their minds, it is only a fleeting thought at best. Going to the park with your kids, to the zoo, family outings, again the simple things of life have escaped us. Technology has nearly ruined our ability to communicate with our fellow man were it not for voicemail, pagers, cell phones, etc. Terrorism reigns supreme, people live in fear, and money seems to be the ultimate goal for so many and they seem bent on doing whatever it takes to acquire large sums of it. So where do we go from here? More gadgets, more money. Road rage, back-stabbing, divorce, disease, sickness--it's all on the rise. What about the future--what does it hold for us? Can man solve these divergent problems? Unlikely....Maybe, just maybe the bible is right all along when it describes the last days of mankinds existence. Is that where we are today?? I leave you with that thought!!! I look forward to your reply if you desire to do so...


  Isn't it interesting how the ones preaching religion are the first to judge?

 


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